a day agorachelamycaplan
This is one of the few threads where I’m just not a fan of how ROTK adapted Gollum. Because of the way his arc plays out in TT it leaves him almost cartoonishly villainous throughout ROTK and imo really defangs the tragedy of this scene in particular. The films do an awful lot right but I often find myself left wanting with a lot of the Gollum/Frodo/Sam material unfortunately
11 days agoluke_or_ritchy
I think gollum/smeagol in that moment seeing sam and frodo together remembers deagol and the friendship that was destroyed, he in that moment sees a true reflection of what he really is and gollums narrative is dissolved through internal clarity. Though short lived, it provides the reader a lasting hope and the idea that no one is ever truely wretched.
15 days agomummykinz
I have always found this a sad and illuminating moment. How many of us have stymied another’s path to redemption or change because we stubbornly stuck to our initial opinion of that person? We have denied them a chance. Our human nature often fails ourselves and others when we reject possibility. No matter they may have deserved our condemnation, it’s a salient reminder that we have as much a part to play in a person’s moment of possible redemption as they do themselves.
15 days ago_cassandra_summer_
That all the hobbits survived. He wrote that because all of his friends died in WW1 and he was the only one to come back. Its so bittersweet
15 days agohgoodman70
I knew you were going to say that scene, but I thought it would be because of way Frodo told Sam to go home, and how absolutely gutted Sam was
15 days agosusaneebert
I’m not even concerned about a different result of Sam’s reaction to Gollum. To me, the tragedy lies solely in that moment alone. Sam can’t take back his reaction, it’s out there. It’s a misunderstanding that confirms to Gollum his suspicions, justifiably or not. It’s so sad. Sadder still if you’ve lived long enough to have said something mistakenly to someone, or reacted wrongly to someone and you feel you can never quite amend that. It’s the most human and sad moment because it’s so relatable to the reader. It reminds us of our past failures to others.
15 days agodeanna_the_baker
How would the tale of the have changed if, in that moment, Samwise had finally seen Sméagol for who he used to be and who he had become? If Samwise had finally experienced the pity that Frodo had and had come to trust Sméagol, would they have been able to reach Mt Doom? Would they have been able to work together to cast the ring into the fire? Or would they have all been consumed?
16 days agomarketa.moje
Peter Jackson made something similar in his movies in the scene in caves behind the waterfall. I'm sorry but I always cry when the soldiers beat Sméagol and Gollum returns😢💔
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