4 months agoThat's why all competitions should use the Relative Placement scoring system - because it mathematically eliminates bias.
4 months agoI took a private lesson with an instructor. I then competed in two JnJ's at different events, and both times she gave me the lowest ranking while her teaching partner gave me the highest ranking đ
4 months agoYes the judges are very biased towards their students, and judging competitions. So far I have danced in 3 jack and Jill I have not ounce placed in anything but I do know all the judges but I donât train with them I am not a student of any of the judges, I am an instructor through ballroom, you bring up a valid point and I do believe it is based on popularity as well, and the judges donât have any qualifications or syllabus that they go by there isnât clear rules and regulations so they go on their biased opinions and it is usually someone they know, it is interesting that I am ballroom, my dancing isnât really recognized in Jack and Jill competitions and I teach my own style so I donât think any judge will know anything about ballroom style or know how to judge or what to look for, so i do believe that it is very biased. And judges will give their students better scores than someone that is not paying them, I love hearing these talks great topic.
4 months agoA good judge may actually score their own students lower because they immediately see everything they still need to improve. And a studentâs level does not automatically reflect the teacherâs ability. A teacher provides the tools, but each dancer is responsible for their own progress. We also do not know whether they have trained with that teacher for months or years.
4 months agoThese ideas are the same for judges in the Ballroom dance industry as well.
4 months agoAs a student imma need my instructor to act like they donât know me! Thatâs a disservice to illegitimately give a good score! Just my perspective and the part where she like âwhatâs that me about me as instructorâ very valid but at what point as a student do you take accountability for your own success?
4 months agoNot to say that that thinking couldnât occur, that they might give their students high scores in order to keep them happy in coming to classes or two make the judge look better, but I do think that isnât really logical on the grand scale. Like, we all know that you can sign up for a JnJ, without instructor approval, all you have to do is buy a ticket at the appropriate level. Iâm coming to festivals and congresses to attend the workshops is awesome, but if you donât practice and train daily and weekly back home, it will definitely show up in a jack and Jill. I wouldnât blame an instructor for a student only coming to class or a private once in a blue moon and not taking it seriously and not practicing at home. Unless the instructor is directly vouching for any particular competitor itâs that individual students responsibility to take it seriously because they being judged by mini, not just by their one instructor. It may also be worth the judges, proactively, reminding their students as they encourage them to go and learn under at festivals that if they attend and do a JnJ and that instructor is a judge, that they will wish them the best, but judge seriously because that judge knows what they teach, and how they have taught their students to perform, so they will not discourage anyone from joining a JnJ but also that they will not forget that the studentâs job is to perform up to the standard they have been taught, and the judgeâs job is to protect the integrity of the event. and certainly, we as students, whether we are learning for fun or to become professionals, still need to want our instructors to hype us up, but also to be honest with us about where we need to improve, and where we may indeed be stalling in our development if we are not consistently practicing our fundamentals so that we have a solid base to upon which to build.
