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Ben Chuks

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Tearing down disempowering traditions to restor Biblical truth. I’m a writer, husband, father, Bible teacher of 13+ years, and a student of scripture.

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The Question

Question 8: If God is three and one at the same time, who was the God in Heaven within three days between the claimed crucifixion and the claimed resurrection?

The Short Answer

First of all, I think you have Modalism mixed up with the Trinity in this question. What I believe you are really asking is: If modalism is true, then who was in heaven as God between the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus (which you also do not believe)? And the short answer to that is: God was not crucified. Jesus was crucified. God was in heaven on His throne, and on the third day, God raised Jesus from the dead. Two persons are in the picture, not one.

God Was in Heaven While Jesus Was on the Cross

According to the Bible, Jesus is not God, but was sent from God. God is the Sender, and Jesus is the Sent. God did not send Himself, but He sent His Son who came, not in His name, but in the name of His Father, and God who sent Him. Jesus didn’t come of His own will; He didn’t come because He chose to; He came because He was sent.

"I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive." John 5:43

"And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." John 17:3

"Jesus said to them, 'If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.'" John 8:42

"And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world." 1 John 4:14

That is why I can say that when Jesus was being crucified and died, God was in heaven. And just before He died, Jesus even cried out to God:

"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, 'Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?' that is, 'My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?'" Matthew 27:46

"And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, 'Father, "into Your hands I commit My spirit."' Having said this, He breathed His last." Luke 23:46

What Happened During Those Three Days?

Between His death and resurrection,...

https://benchuks.org/question-8-who-was-god-in-heaven-between-the-crucifixion-and-resurrection/ by @iambenchuks

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The Journey to Truth: 7 Stages Every Believer Must Walk

Have you ever encountered a spiritual truth you never knew about and thought to yourself, “How did I miss this for so long?” It’s possible you even fought against it at one time, but now you see things differently. Now, you know the truth. It happens to the best of us. Even if you are a prophet who’s always tuned to the frequency of heaven and hears words from the mouth of God regularly, you will still experience this....

https://benchuks.org/the-journey-to-truth-7-stages-every-believer-must-walk/ by @iambenchuks

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The Question

Question 7. If God is one and three at a time, then who was the God in heaven when Jesus was on earth? Wouldn’t this contradict his many references to a God in Heaven that sent him?

The Short Answer

The theological view that gives this question legitimacy is modalism. And yes, modalism does contradict the teachings of Jesus.

The Claims of Modalism vs Scripture

According to the doctrine of Modalism, God is a single person who has revealed Himself in three different modes or forms: the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. He was the Father in the Old Testament; He was Jesus in the New Testament; and He is the Holy Spirit now.

However, according to Scripture, our Father and God IS NOT Jesus. The Father is always presented as localised in heaven, which is His throne. But His presence (Spirit) is everywhere at the same time.

"In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name." Matthew 6:9

"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." Matthew 7:21

Jesus Himself makes that distinction. Also, Jesus and the Father can be found simultaneously in all of Scripture, the Old and New Testaments, so there can’t be role-playing happening. In the Gospels,

"Jesus answered them and said, 'My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me.'" John 7:16

"For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me." John 6:38

While Jesus was on earth, God was in heaven. Jesus was sent from heaven, and the sender was the Father. When He left the earth, He went back to God in heaven.

"Jesus answered them and said, 'My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me.'" John 7:16

"For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me." John 6:38

"Jesus said to her, 'Do not hold Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, "I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God."'" John 20:17

Conclusion

The Father was the God in heaven during Jesus’ ea...

https://benchuks.org/question-7-who-was-god-in-heaven-when-jesus-was-on-earth/ by @iambenchuks

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The Question

Question 6. If God is one and three simultaneously, then none of the three could be the complete God. Granting that such was the case, then when Jesus was on earth, he wasn’t a complete God, nor was the "Father in Heaven" a whole God. Doesn’t that contradict what Jesus always said about His God and our God in heaven, His Lord and our Lord? Does that also mean that there was no complete God then, between the claimed crucifixion and the claimed resurrection?

The Short Answer

Your main question is: Doesn’t the Trinity contradict Jesus’ teachings? And the short answer: The Trinity contradicts Jesus’ teachings

The Trinity Doctrine

The doctrine of the Trinity holds that God is one being in three coequal (no hierarchy of power), coeternal (each without beginning), and consubstantial (each fully God) persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit

Co-eternal means each person of the Trinity existed eternally without beginning. None is before or after the others in time.

Co-equal means each person shares the same divine attributes of omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence; each is worthy of the same worship and glory; and there is no hierarchy of power or importance among them.

Consubstantial means the three persons are not three different gods, and are not parts of God, but each is fully God because they share the same single divine substance, essence, or being (homoousios in Greek).

If you’re asking whether this doctrine contradicts the teachings of Jesus, the answer is yes.

The Scriptural Position

According to Jesus, God is one, as in individual, and the Father whom Jesus preached is that one true God.

John.17.3 - And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only (one) true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

John.20.17 - Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, "I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God."’

Mark 12:32 - So the scribe said to Him, "Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth, for there is one God, an...

https://benchuks.org/question-6-doesnt-the-trinity-contradict-jesuss-own-teachings/ by @iambenchuks

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The Question

Question 5. Is God three-in-one and one in three simultaneously or one at a time?

The Short Answer

There are dilemmas and confusion that have arisen from the idea that God is more than one person. They include trinitarianism, modalism, and other such ideas. But according to Scripture, God is one, as in one individual. God is neither 3-in-1 nor 1-in-3. God is one individual, the Father, not a group of three persons, or an actor performing 3 different roles.

I am the Lord, and there is no other; There is no God besides Me. I will gird you, though you have not known Me. Isaiah 45:5

Trinity and Modalism

When you say three-in-one or three persons in one God, you’re describing the Trinity, which the Bible does not teach. And when you say one-in-three or one person in different forms, you’re describing modalism, which the Bible also does not teach.

Trinity is a Christian doctrine that teaches that God is one being in three coequal (in every sense), coeternal (each without beginning), consubstantial (each fully God) persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit

Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one! Deuteronomy 6:4

For us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live. 1 Corinthians 8:6

Modalism is a Christian doctrine that teaches that God is a single person who has revealed Himself in three different modes or forms: the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. So it was the Father who became the Son, and later became the Spirit. But we see that Scripture shows the Father and the Son simultaneously.

Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: ‘Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You. John 17:1

And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. John 17:3

When all the people were baptized, it came to pass that Jesus also was baptized; and while He prayed, the heaven was opened. Luke 3:21

And the Holy Spirit descen...

https://benchuks.org/question-5-is-god-three-in-one-one-in-three-or-one-individual/ by @iambenchuks

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The Question

Christians claim that Jesus acknowledged that he and God were one in the sense of nature when he says in John 10:30, "My Father and I are one". Later on in John 17:21-23, Jesus refers to his followers and Himself and God as one in five places. So why did they give the previous "one" a different meaning from the other five "ones?

The Short Answer

Your main question is why do some Christians interpret John 10:30 and John 17:21-23 differently? And the short answer is that it is due to indoctrination and tradition. Many have been conditioned to accept certain beliefs as true for a long time, and they never go back to verify their beliefs. But as for Jesus, He did not lie.

John 10:30 in Context

Most people pull up John 10:30 as evidence that Jesus is God. But the context of the passage (John 10:22-39) proves otherwise. Jesus was actually minding His business when He was surrounded by Jews who asked Him to tell them plainly if He was the Christ or not. It was in answering their question that Jesus said the words “My Father and I are one.”

Jesus didn’t deny being the Christ. He started explaining to them that He had been telling them who He was, but they didn’t believe. And the primary way He’s been using to tell them He was the Christ was through the works (the miracles, signs, and wonders) He was doing.

For the person who might think, “Jesus should have plainly said it instead of speaking through miracles,” I want you to know that the Scripture prophesied that the Christ will be a miracle worker. Isaiah 35;5-6; 61;1-2; 42:7, Deut 18:18

Those who are truly seeking God, whose hearts are right, will see the miracles and recognize that Jesus is the Christ. John 1:45–51, John 4:4–30, 39–42, John 9:1–41, Luke 19:1–10, Matthew 27:54, Mark 15:39.

But those whose hearts aren’t right with God will see the miracles and only suspect Him to be the Christ. They will rally around Him to confirm their suspicion, not because they want to follow, but so they can kill him to make sure he doesn’t disrupt their agenda, just like Herod tried to do.

According to Jesus, th...

https://benchuks.org/question-4-why-interpret-one-differently-in-john-1030-and-john-1721-23/ by @iambenchuks

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The Question

Question 3: Christians say that Jesus was God because he was called Son of God, Son of Man, Messiah, and "saviour". Ezekiel was addressed in the Bible as the Son of Man. Jesus spoke of "the peace makers" as Sons of God. Any person who followed the Will and Plan of God was called SON OF GOD in the Jewish tradition and in their language (Genesis 6:2,4; Exodus 4:22; Psalm 2:7; Romans 8:14). "Messiah" which in Hebrew means "God’s anointed" and not "Christ", and "Cyrus" the person is called "Messiah" or "the anointed". As for "saviour", in II KINGS 13:5, other individuals were given that title too, without being gods. So, where is the proof in these terms that Jesus was God when the word son is not exclusively used for him alone?

The Short Answer

Your main question is: Can Titles Make Jesus God? And the short answer to that is: Titles can't and doesn't make Jesus God.

What Does “Son of Man” Mean?

There's a sense in which Son of Man simply means a human being, a male or female who is human. That's right. But there's also a sense in which the Son of Man can refer to a political title, and that's the main idea I will try to explain in this article.

To understand the political angle of the title "the Son of Man," you have to see it from a kingdom or government perspective. God is not ruling over a religion. God is ruling over a Kingdom.

Now, as a political title, whoever is called a Son of Man holds an office in the Kingdom of God that makes him a representative of men (humanity).

Just as a senator represents his constituency in the senate, so does a Son of Man represent the entire human race in the divine council of God, which consists of Sons of God representing different beings (humans, cherubs, seraphs, etc.), classes, and jurisdictions.

In the days of the Bible, a son of a house is a legal representative of that house who can legally inherit or manage the possessions of the house. Jesus tells us that there are many mansions (or houses) in His Father's house (or Kingdom). John 14:1-3. The earth and the human race are included in the domain of the Kingdo...

https://benchuks.org/question-3-do-titles-like-son-of-god-or-messiah-prove-jesus-is-god/ by @iambenchuks

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Question 2: Did Jesus Contradict Himself on Seeing the Father?

The Question Question 2 of 60: Christians assert that Jesus claimed to be God when they quote him in John 14:9: "He that has seen me has seen the Father". Didn’t Jesus clearly say that people have never seen God? As it says in John 5:37: "And the father himself, which has sent me, has borne witness of me. You have NEITHER HEARD HIS VOICE AT ANY TIME NOR SEEN HIS SHAPE"...

https://benchuks.org/question-2-did-jesus-contradict-himself-on-seeing-the-father/ by @iambenchuks

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Question 1 of 60: To be son is to be less than Divine, and to be Divine is to be no one’s son. How could Jesus have the attributes of sonship and divinity altogether?

Answer

Following the context of your question, I take it that you use the word “Divine” to refer to God Almighty, and I will be answering the question based on that assumption. In which case your main question is:

How can Jesus be His own Son if He is God? How can Jesus be Son of God and God at the same time?

The short answer is: Jesus IS NOT Son of God and God at the same time because Jesus IS NOT the Father, the Almighty God. Jesus is the Son of the Father, the Almighty God

There is Only One True God

According to scripture, there is only ONE TRUE GOD. This one is not in the sense of unity, but individuality. What that means is that the True God is not a unity of two or more persons that make up God. The True God is One Person, One Individual. God is one individual, and according to scripture, that individual is not Jesus.

“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one! You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength. Deuteronomy 6:4-5

I am the Lord, and there is no other; There is no God besides Me. I will gird you, though you have not known Me, Isaiah 45:5

Yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live. 1 Corinthians 8:6

The Law, the Prophets, and the New Testament all agree that there is one God.

Jesus Identified that One True God as His Father and God

Contrary to popular opinion, Jesus never claimed to be God. He said and claimed a lot of things, but being God is not one of His claims. Some even say He was crucified because He claimed to be God, but that's not what the Bible reveals. At the center of His claims is the claim that He came from or was sent by the one true God, and that this one true God was (and still is) His God and Father.

Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and c...

https://benchuks.org/question-1-how-can-jesus-be-both-the-son-of-god-and-god/ by @iambenchuks

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This is why Jesus is NOT the Father by @iambenchuks

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Seeking Truth Beyond Religion by @iambenchuks

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ONLY for those who desire the truth by @iambenchuks

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