9 days agokverrue
Unfortunately we are mortal and will struggle. Not as easy as the slide may indicate.
9 days ago61tazmania
Justice is not served when people are unrepentant and still abusing. I don't care how many Atonements there are. Any Atonement is useless when a person is unrepentant, still harming others, and dangerous. A fact we constantly ignore in the church. The scriptures do NOT absolve you of accountability or responsibility for the harm you have inflicted. Nor do they say that justice is waived. And you have no right to forgive someone else for me and, honestly, neither does Christ. No one has the right to remove my agency. If you want my forgiveness, earn it. You don't get to just say, "Sorry," flippantly repeatedly and keep right on harming. Prove you are repentant through your actions. MAKE AMENDS. We have completely jettisoned that part of the repentance process. If you look it up, you'll find that's in the scriptures too, but we've eliminated it. No one gave you the right to eliminate amends and restitution.
9 days agodaniel_kraus3
As a survivor of emotional abuse and neglect (my dad being the abuser), I would love to keep my trauma wounds closed. I would love to move on and leave all the hate, resentment, and anger behind. Unfortunately it's nowhere near that simple. Forgiveness for truly horrific actions is often a painfully long and nonlinear process, and it cannot be rushed. I haven't spoken to my dad in any meaningful capacity in over six years. His influence over me as waned significantly as I've entered my adult life, yet I still struggle with the effects of the trauma he put me through. I have nightmares, my relationships and mental health are still difficult to keep stable, my self-esteem and sense of self-worth vary tremendously from day to day, all resulting from the way my dad treated me. I love President Holland, and he's given me so many good things to think about and incorporate into my life. But I'll be honest, I think it's a little insensitive to assume that any time we go back on forgiveness it's completely up to us and results in us disobeying that commandment. I also think it's insensitive to assume that we can just automatically forget the sins of others who hurt us. Like how we remember our own sins for our own protection, remembering our pain, including our anger towards those who hurt us can be protective. I have no idea when, if ever, I'll be okay reestablishing a relationship with my dad. And though I believe he's tried to repent, he has yet to prove, through the way he treats my sisters, that he would be a safe person in my life. I remember the pain he caused me so I know not to let him hurt me like that again. Am I still working towards letting go of the all consuming anger I feel towards him? Yes, I am, but I've learned that it's not a simple thing to do. And at the end of the day, that will only come through Jesus's help
9 days agoraiyaivy
I literally just spoke in sacrament about this very thing a week ago. Amazing talks for reference: Elder Holland (2009 to BYU) "Remember Lots Wife". Another, Gordon B Hinkley "Of You it is Required to Forgive" (1980). Scriptures: D&C 58:42, D&C 64:8-9, 3Nephi 27:19 ... final thought: we are not the decider if someone has repented fully. Jesus Christ is judge over all the living and the dead. He loves us AND them. He died for ALL our sins... even the really bad ones. Let's all help each other Home. ❤️
9 days agothemiraclefilespodcast
Yes, but just because someone has repented, it doesn’t mean the person hurt doesn’t still hurt or have the right to talk about their pain. In fact, in order to heal, talking about pain is usually necessary. I think it’s up to the person who has hurt someone else to be okay with knowing their sins are washed clean without putting any other burden or blame on the person they hurt. The person they hurt may take some time to heal and forgive. It’s a process. Either way, Jesus heals it all. ❤️🙏
10 days agoheathersdavy
Forgiveness of others is a gift to ourselves as we no longer carry the weight and burden. Forgiving ourselves?… now that’s sometimes a little harder but still a gift - Grace ❤️
10 days agokale.pretzel
The difficult thing for me currently-I am trying to move on and I want desperately to move on and be free. But the other person in the situation has made it so that they will always have some level of control and power over me. And that’s the hard part, trying to figure out how to move on and heal as much as I can, while they won’t. Christ is the only one who can really help me navigate that
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